'Call Zambia or Tanzania to help' Says JL

I have seen the site of Juba talks.

Please take note of the following:-Almost everything that the the Uganda government is doing is being instructed by the UK government. They are not infavour of N Uganda nor South Sudan having any peace. Its a waste of time puting trusts on ICC or the UK govenment at present. Katwere myero lobo calo TZ, Zambiya, should come to help the civilians caught up in this situation. Myero wa ribwat ki lobo magi wabed calo dul acel/lobo acel kwedgi. Enclosed is the minutes from parliament. Below is minutes of meeting in house of commons.

Notes on meeting in the house of commons 9.02.06
Meeting was organized by All Party Parliamentary Group and Genocide Prevention.
Bob Blizzard (Labour)MP chaired the meeting; David Drew (Labour)MP assistant; 4pm British time - meeting started.

Bob Blizzard visited Koc Goma camp in October 2005 together with David Drew, Paul Rowen, Mark Simmonds and Stephen Carter the coordinator of All Party Parliamentary Group.Bob says out of that visit to the North of Uganda, all the people of Kocgoma responded that they (the British government) should end the war now! They saw people who were brutalized by LRA. However, the local people still had encouraging spirits, welcomed them warmly.The reason why they (UK) now wants the war to end are:-
Reason1 ---IDP condition needs International community's involvement.
Reason2 ---Children sleeping rough
Reason3 ---Integration of abducted children back into the community
Reason4 ---Duration of war now 20 years
-Museveni resisted help to sort war before that is why the war continued.
-Kony has no support from Acoli people/ Acoli leaders
-Peaceful conflict resolution with the LRA was disrupted when Sam Kolo surrendered --himself because he thought he would get killed by Kony.
-International Community should enforce the warrant of LRA in the DRC region.
-Kony may resist arrest.
-Immediate steps need to be done to arrest LRA leader.
-Important that international community should support rehabilitation.
-Paramount chief of Acoli wants reconciliation.
-Economic development of the North should be funded from Kampala
-IDPs should become small towns
Thanks to Christian Aid who accompanied MPs on the visit
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David Drew(MP):
Little to say - refer to the report
Thanks to Christian Aid
Had opportunity to meet Museveni three times, made point clear to him that we felt that government of Uganda could be doing more. Government of Uganda needs pressure that this should not keep going on any longer. US has satellite and had the opportunity to arrest Kony.In Sudan where LRA has operated for many years - Khartoum government + SPLA should be clear that it is their duty to do more.This is a problem the world has ignored for a long time, ignored too long by International Community Problem needs UN to get involved. Children forcefully kept in this condition.
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Tim Raby - Tear Fund co-ordinator of 6 NGOs:
Returned yesterday from a two weeks visit to Uganda. Trip contributing factor
-Foreign Commonwealth Office
-British government
-ICC
UK pledged 15 million pounds to Uganda. British government policy on Uganda has failed. People spend two days to collect water in N Uganda camp. No amount of aid money given will solve Uganda problems. Report of MPs visit to Uganda does not address failure of the Uganda government.Does not address failure to protect
Lack of security in the camps. Uganda government has shown its failure by evidence of refusing to declare N Uganda a disaster area.Thousands of huts in the camps burn down time and time again. The people of Northern Uganda have suffered enough
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Lord Alan Howard:
There has been cynicism of the conflict in Northern Uganda
Perpetration of the conflict should be shameful to all of us.
Cynicism because it suits the army of Uganda opportunity of corruption.
Cynicism because it suits the government of Uganda because Northern Uganda was supporter of Obote's government.
They said they have no helicopter gunships etc then they were given money - spent it on something else.
Northern Uganda has been neglected by the media with its awful mortality rate
HIV Aids etc
No drugs to people
Increase South development reported but not North of Uganda
UN intervention needed quick
UK needs to insist for UN's intervention
There are many NGOs in N Uganda but less efficient and less effective.
No need for a waste of resources
Museveni always says he did not need it
He always asks for helicopter gunships saying "give it to me and I will finish them all".
Kony has very few fighters
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Janet (MP):
Connection between Amnesty and ICC
Capacity for reconciliation
Museveni used ICC to warrant Kony in order to wrong foot Khartoum government but not for the benefit of the people of Northern Uganda.
Local people, do they still have faith on Amnesty?
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Answer from Bob:
Reconciliation not easy but it is working in Acoli, cultural to forgive people.
Amnesty cannot enter into the issue of capturing Kony.
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Bishop of Winchester;
Visited North Uganda Jan 2006
Wants clarity on issue of land not clear in the report of MPs visit
Condition of camps
Museveni says it will end by end of March after election.
Reconstruction is enormous process.
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David MP:
Answer: Empty land is to do deals with investors
Large companies can go and buy the lands.
Acoli people can organize themselves over their lands but that is if they are allowed to go to their lands.
Conflict over the lands may arise because sustenance of their lives is by going back to work on their lands.
UPDF are also to blame for brutality.
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Open question/contribution
Man from reconciliation resource UK
Asked whether amnesty could be given more than 6 months to stay in Uganda rather than say only 6 months at a time.

Janet from (stop the genocide in Northern Uganda):

We from Northern Uganda in the Diaspora have always felt that we have been neglected, but having heard some contribution from some of the people today, at least this gives us indication that there are some of you who care about the situation, and would like to see that people are helped in Northern Uganda.

Condition of the camps are killing people more than the LRAs
People are saying that they do not want to stay in the camps
Men are turning into drinking, the whole culture is being broken down i.e. the respect that we once had, the family structure etc.

There is not a single NGO that distribute soap or salt to people in the camps. People are reduced to eating beans without salt, they wash without soap. The army kill people who attempt to wonder out of camps.(refer to pictures etc)
The people sent a message that if you can help them at all, remove them out of the camps.

This is for humanity's sake.
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Januna (stop the genocide member)
camps did not start recently, it started in 1986, before LRA issue arose.
he stayed in camp, his father was killed by Uganda soldier in front of him
he was tortured (showing the burns in his hands) by Uganda soldiers
Not every problem is being created by the LRA
The camp was created to punish the Acoli/people of Northern Uganda

Bob says, time up
Bob says, the solution is to arrest Kony
The UN in Congo (DRC) will do this.
Meeting ended 5pm